Dros delay after 30 days About a month or so earlier I purchased some ammo under the new DOJ background check system-no problem there. Are the FBI really that slow about the background checks that some people cant get a return? If the validity of the check is supposed to expire 30 days after starting, then you'd have to be releasing a gun on an expired background check wouldn't you? If it starts at 10:40am, and they are willing to release after 30 days is up, then on day 30 at 2 The new status options include “Undetermined,” “Approval after Delay,” and “30-Day Reject. That was done in 2014 when the "undetermined status" was created to address the issue of prior DOJ delay abuses. You need to get in touch with your FFL and ask if they will release your firearm to you if you come up UNDETERMINED. May 30, 2021 路 Generally that is a 30 day wait. There is no good information available regarding the timing of the applicant's status change to "delayed" and the eventual outcome of the application. ) (There are some classes of government-favored people, like Hollywood, who are Please remember, the 10-day waiting period does not begin until you submit the DROS to DOJ using your DOJ-issued or privately owned PC and receive a DROS number. Apr 19, 2013 路 Delayed and Release After Delayed DROS Response: r days from the date that NICS was initially contacted. I am currently on day 17, my question is people with delays, is there any chance of getting approved? If so how many 30 days starting from when you started DROS on the 1911, so ~20 days after the 10 day waiting period ends is when you can start DROS on another one. The CA DOJ CANNOT delay the DROS simply because they "didn't get around to it", they can only delay if they found some information that requires more time to clarify: It is already the law that FFLs release after a 30 day delay. Save those documents for Step 8. Edit: The confusing part is that you mention you're Delayed again, yet a first time buyer. The only way to find out what is causing your d Dros delay Hey guys i started the process to buy a gun legally at sportsman warehouse in 5/29 and it was delayed, i received a letter from doj stating it was delayed, after the 30 days passed i called the store and they said i was undetermined, and told me to do a dross again or get a refund, i got a refund because the guy stated they don’t Feb 15, 2022 路 Got the DELAY letter and my DROS period went the full 30 days and turned into an UNDETERMINED. Aug 21, 2023 路 So I got a call today from my FFL saying my DROS was delayed, this is something that has never happened to me. So I decided to purchase my first semi-auto rifle almost two months after having purchased my first semi-auto pistol and i had no issues with my background check the first time around. UPDATE. California law prohibits more than one application to purchase a handgun in a 30 day period. The delay is 29 days now and will hit 30 days tomorrow. So although some of you are asking, I’m not going to release that dealer name. Unfortunately, This second time I was delayed and after 30 days I was placed under undetermined and was given two choices. My original purchase went undetermined, big5 does not deliver on undetermined, but the guy misspelled where i was born so his supervisor told him to re dros at the stores expense. Of Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) Entry Systen (DES) Then after 30 days they told me it was undetermined. If the FFL will not release on undetermined then you have 20 days (after mandatory 10) down to the minute to wait for a possible APPROVED status. This initiation triggers the 10-day waiting period before you can take possession of your handgun. Now, what are my options if it passes 30 days and what could have caused the delay. My DROS came back undetermined after waiting the initial 10 day period, getting a Notice of Delay, then waiting another 20+ days 馃槚 My dealer said he doesn’t release on undetermined. Additionally, prior to the delivery of the firearm, you must swipe the purchaser's DMV issued driver's license/identification card through your DOJ-issued magnetic card swipe reader. STEP 2: The California Bureau of Firearms should send you a letter informing you of your Undetermined Status and/or Denial Letter [s]. I started a DROS 2/4/24, got the 10 day "delayed", then the 30 day "undetermined". Don't give up! Like some others have said, choose an FFL that will release on undetermined, and make sure you know the restocking fee policy before starting the process if you don't. Seems like this is happening to almost everyone…. The best advice is to only purchase from a FFL that releases firearms whose applications result in "undetermined" status. Store wont release on undetermined even with the new court ruling. what do I do? After further research, your 30 days start once you submit your application and you get a dros number. Meyer ruled in favor of the plaintiffs on Wednesday, citing state law. Reply reply Yolohodl47 • Considering how many California Democrats want to extend the mandatory waiting period to 30 days, I do not expect the DOJ to lift a finger to help anyone resolve their endless delay conundrums. Otherwise i wouldn’t of wasted my time again on a store that doesn’t release on undetermined. Save that document for Step 8. Should i just try to re-dros the same gun? Or should i go through the live scan process If the status is “Pending,” “Delayed,” “Denied,” “Denial after Delay,” “DMV Reject,” or “30-Day Reject,” the firearm shall not be delivered. Started a 2nd DROS 3/5/24, got the 10 day delay, then on day 14 got "Approved". Day 1, I start DROS "10 day wait" on a new handgun "G36" Day 10, I pick up hand gun. A “Pending” status shall be designated when the purchaser’s eligibility is under review during the 10-day waiting period. (Go too Section 22). I waited the 31 days and purchased a new handgun in July from same FFL and got delay. Aug 12, 2022 路 In 2020, the state’s DOJ expanded California’s 10-day waiting period for background checks to 30 days during the height of the coronavirus pandemic. (Go to SSection 2) I received aan “Undeterminned” or “Delay” designation in response to myy I do not knoow if I am eligibble to purchase firearms. (Penal Code §§ 26815 (a) & 27540 (a). Brought her home on Friday. If you purchased a handgun within the last 30 days and recently attempted to purchase another handgun if you do not meet any other prohibiting criteria. Dealer said they will release to me on undetermined on any future purchase but were apprehensive to do so on a first time purchase. If the issue continues then my advice is to contact a gun law attorney. At that time it will be up to the dealer as to whether he or she releases the firearm. This simple Date calculator will allow you to quickly determine any date from today. (Go to Section 33) I have Calculate the date by adding <?php echo e(30); ?> days from today. I recently purchased a handgun in June 2023 waited 10 days picked up no problem whatsoever. Read on here somebody waited 3 months until they got there background in the mail, somebody else 1 month. May 1, 2024 路 Therefore, you can start the DROS process immediately after the licensed firearm dealer has completed the initial paperwork associated with the sale, verified your eligibility through background checks, and accepted your payment. Is this happening to anyone else ?? On Monday july 11 it will be the 30 day mark. This is so frustrating. See if your FFL will allow you to have them hold it until then. of days to several weeks. "DOJ will reject Dealer’s Record of Sale (DROS) applications submitted by any firearm dealer when it has been determined that the purchaser has completed a handgun DROS application that has been accepted by DOJ within the past thirty Day 30 of delay. That process is backed up and it can take more than 60 days. That prompted an alliance of pro-gun groups to file suit against the state. Jun 27, 2025 路 California Code of Regulations, Title 11 - Law, Division 5 - Firearms Regulations, Chapter 8 - DROS Entry System (Des), Section 4230 - Delivery of Firearms Following DROS Submission and Suspension Frequently Asked Questions Firearms Dealers - Firearms Division - California Dept. ” Providing more options allows the Department to clearly and concisely communicate with the dealers on a purchaser’s status. (B) An "Approval after Delay" status shall be designated when the Department approves an application to purchase a firearm after identifying a "Delayed" status. For us, we typically get notified of a delay around 3-5 days after DROS. After receiving the letter, it is appealable to the California Department of Justice, Firearms Record Review, form 8016. If the transaction is not comple ed within the 30-day period, the FFL must initiate Sep 30, 2015 路 The California Department of Justice (DOJ), Gun Owners of California (GOC) has produced a gun owners guide to handling DROS application delays and denials. San Diego Superior Court Judge John S. Info: i… Assume a day 1 delay with a day 30 release. It was from big 5 and they have a “don’t deliver on undetermined” policy. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General Aug 17, 2025 路 You must take physical possession of the firearm within 30 days of the DROS submission date, or the dealer is required to cancel the transaction, necessitating a new DROS process and associated fees. If your delay is due to an issue with an incomplete criminal record in the DOJ’s databases, your delay could last much longer, rhaps longer than a year. The DOJ has the right to delay a transaction of a firearm for 30 days. 5 of my friends just dros pistols, one of them drosd a ppt and a m18 he has a security company multiple licenses and ccw… the only one out of us that shouldn’t have any issues, got hit with a delay as well on day 5 of dros. Once the 30 days has passed if the department is still not able to make a decision about the eligibility of the purchaser they will notify the dealer. Figured I'd update everyone, not sure if anyone will see this though. (A) An "Approved" status shall be designated for a Department-approved application after the 10-day waiting period has concluded. S ection 2: I am certainn that I have never been arrestted/detained/cited by law enfoorcement or havve any criminal convictions, whhatsoever. I’m looking for some positive vibes as my DROS when delayed and all I see is delayed = undetermined, and my LGS doesn’t release on undetermined. 2 weeks ago i sent in live scan request with finger prints and online it still shows “in progress”. Mar 15, 2007 路 I have a question on the puchase of 1 handgun over a 30 day period in California. What's the specific problem? Delays are unfortunately too common. Hello, I have seen some old threads about dros delays, but was hoping for some current encouragement. There are reports of Day 29 approvals so don't give up hope yet. You can still buy the other pistol, but you just can't start DROS or the waiting period until the 30 days are up. START S ection 1: My DROS application was denied. Anyone have it not go the full 30? UPDATE: DROS turned approved after being delayed for 28 days! Got my baby home. Happened to me when trying to get my pestilence it went all the way into the 30 days but with my lgs its at their discretion after the 30 they released it. The “30-day Multiple Purchase Exemption” DROS on a purchaser who presents valid proof purchaser presents valid proof of an exemption Section 12078, you should choose the appropriate peace officer with an the exemption “30-day Mul letter) iple and Purchase not UPDATE: ended up getting approved after delay. "me very happy" So on day 21 can I start the DROS on a new handgun and a new 10 day period? Picking the gun up on day 31 Feb 14, 2022 路 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 286 Share Tweet After 30 days I got an undetermined , delay was changed, after a call to DOJ #15 02-15-2022, 6:23 AM edgerly779 Delays (if any) always come before the 10 days. I have purchase multiple firearms this year and several more over the past couple of years and never have had a delay. . When you buy, transfer, or are loaned a firearm in California, you are generally required by state statutes to wait for ten, 24-hour periods after the DOJ receives the DROS application (through their DROS DES system) before you can take possession (delivery) of your gun. “do you release on undetermined? do you have a restocking fee?” are probably a good questions to ask for STEP 1: Obtain a copy of your Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) from the California firearms dealer to whom you applied to purchase a firearm. 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